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Linda Hagge's avatar

Okay, I want to start by saying that I'm as left wing libertarian as it is possible to be. I am at the lower left extreme of the political compass. What you are missing is that civil liberties supercede everything else. Without that, there is nothing. What that means is that even though some things may make you recoil, if you are going to participate in the political process (and that is debatable given that it makes no difference), you may have to support the candidate who supports civil liberties. It makes no difference if your candidate is left on everything if s/he does not support free speech and bodily autonomy. It bugs the hell out of me that Ron DiSantis makes disparaging remarks when people in South America vote for a leftist president, but on civil liberties he is great. So IF I were to vote for president in 2024 and he were the Republican candidate, I would prefer him by a long way to Biden. The second thing you are missing is that the 2020 election WAS corrupt. So was the one in 2016. You need to acknowledge that the US does not have free and fair elections and hasn't for a long time. There is massive vote tampering and shenanigans, and both sides resist the changes that would be necessary for our elections to be secure. Democrats have not had a legitimate primary, probably ever. Voting machines are easy to fractionate or simply flip. Absentee ballot fiddling is rampant. State attorney generals routinely make decisions during primaries and elections to privilege their own party, or disenfranchise voters. It would behoove you to realize that COVID is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to dishonesty, propaganda and greed, and that it is ALL bullshit, not just the COVID response.

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Atlandea's avatar

When Kirsch proposed we support Johnson I wrote, no I will not hold my nose and support someone who is a grifter like plenty of other republicans, and who I agree with on only ONE issue.

Yes, our democracy is at risk. We are being asked to make a 'sophies choice' in a way.

If only I had a time machine to see how all of this plays out.

To this day I can't understand how people still see trump as someone who has this countries interests at heart. He has only ever had one person's interstest at heart, his own. People are simply projecting onto him things they wish he was.

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